<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_3284">Non mi sono spiegato...</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_3290">Non volevo fare una "critica" ma semplicemente dare un'immagine della situazione in cui ci troviamo e del perché questo sport non si sviluppa.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5037">Carenza di competenza o di visione delle caratteristiche del rugby; creazione di false aspettative nei ragazzi o paure non fondate e presentazione di una immagine di uno sport limitata che non segue le tendenze della società moderna.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5038">Al di la di una evidente carenza di conoscenze tecniche, il più grave errore mediatico del rugby è di averlo presentato e di continuare a presentarlo secondo canoni obsoleti. Questo, sopratutto quando si rivolge ai giovani, che sono l'essenza dell'innovazione e del cambiamento positivi, ci fa perdere appeal.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5039">Consideriamo che, per esempio, con Brunel si è detto di ritornare alla "scuola francese" quando la stessa Francia non segue più tale corrente (french flair).</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5107">Sicuramente, secondo la mia personalissima opinione, l'innovazione a tutti i costi non è necessariamente positiva. Caratteristiche del "passato" possono essere più attuali ma la scelta della via da percorrere è efficace solo nel caso in cui si abbia la possibilità di valutare le varie opzioni. Iniziare un percorso perché è l'unico che si conosce è una limitazione della "cultura" sportiva...</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2985" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5516">Autoreferenzialità, accomodamento ed eccessivo protezionismo generano la decadenza di qualsiasi "cultura" mentre il confronto, il desiderio di primeggiare e l'accettazione del rischio sono le basi della crescita e dello sviluppo.&nbsp;</span></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_3039">&nbsp;</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_3038"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_3037">Salvatore Messina</div></div><br>  <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2988"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2987"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2986"> ----- Messaggio inoltrato -----<br>  <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2989"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Da:</span></b> Luca Oliva &lt;lucaoliver63@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">A:</span></b> rugbylist@rugbylist.it <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5554"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5553">Inviato:</span></b> Venerdì 20 Febbraio 2015 11:52<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5558"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5557">Oggetto:</span></b> Re: [RUGBYLIST] I: I: R: Re: I: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R: I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_2990"><br><div id="yiv3320625800"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424434529350_5626">
    Errori vari assortiti ... <br clear="none">
    Insegniamo l'evitamento per primo ... <br clear="none">
    Qualcuno sostiene la necessità di privilegiare rugby touch fino ai
    10 anni ...<br clear="none">
    Certo il rugby resta uno sport di contatto e prima o poi qualcuno
    glielo dovrà dire ... <span class="yiv3320625800moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br clear="none">
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    Ciao.<br clear="none">
    Luca <br clear="none">
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    <div class="yiv3320625800moz-cite-prefix">Il 20/02/2015 11:32, Salvatore Messina
      ha scritto:<br clear="none">
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4034">A parte la zona di
            Parigi penso poca roba... E' risaputo che il 90% del "rugby
            che conta" francese è al SUD da Grenoble a Montpellier.</span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4035">Ovviamente i tecnici
            stanno lavorando ed i risultati si vedranno a fine ciclo,
            fra una decina d'anni....</span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4318">Ovviamente, siccome il
            "popolo del rugby" pensa a mangiare e bere ed ai valori
            questi comunicati cadono nel vuoto....</span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span>STORIELLA</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span><br clear="none">
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4382">EDUCATORE Bene bambini
            oggi vi insegno un nuovo gioco: il rugby! La prima regola è
            come si fa la meta...</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span>....
            dopo un po'</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4642">EDUCATORE Adesso
            inseriamo il placcaggio: il portatore della palla può essere
            fermato mettendolo a terra.</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span>...
            dopo un po'</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span>EDUCATORE
            Infine l'ultima regola: la palla può essere passata solo
            all'indietro.</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_5098">BAMBINO Scusi maestro
            ma se vado a segnare la meta con la palla in mano e
            l'avversario mi può placcare ed al mio compagno in sostegno
            la palla la posso passare solo all'indietro, come facciamo
            ad avanzare per segnare la meta?</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_5099">EDUCATORE (entusiasta)
            Con grinta, determinazione e spirito di sacrificio, che sono
            i VALORI che insegna il rugby!</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_5283">BAMBINI TRA DI LORO
            Caspita a basket ed a calcio mi dicono che ci si deve
            smarcare... ma che gioco di cacca...</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_5813">BAMBINO "OBESO" Allora
            io prendo la palla e spacco tutto e voi mi venite
            dietro!!!!!</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span>BAMBINO
            "MINGHERLINO" Ma poi ci facciamo male....</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_5868">EDUCATORE Può
            succedere... il rugby insegna anche a sopportare le botte
            (MAMMA DEL BAMBINO "MINGHERLINO" a bordo campo inorridita)</span></div>
        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_6104">BAMBINI TRA DI LORO Per
            forza... quello non sente niente con la ciccia che ha....
            (MAMMA DEL BAMBINO "OBESO" a bordo campo abbassa gli occhi a
            terra, pensando alla pastasciutta con il ragù che aspetta a
            casa il suo cucciolo, con altre mamme in tacchi e minigonna
            che chattano sullo smartphone sghignazzando e chiacchierando
            di "tartarughe")</span></div>
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        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_3571"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_6133">Questo è il nostro
            rugby....</span></div>
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          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4037">Salvatore Messina</div>
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              <font id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4096" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Da:</span></b>
                Luca Oliva <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com">&lt;lucaoliver63@gmail.com&gt;</a><br clear="none">
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">A:</span></b>
                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a> <br clear="none">
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Inviato:</span></b>
                Venerdì 20 Febbraio 2015 10:19<br clear="none">
                <b id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_6478"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_6477" style="font-weight:bold;">Oggetto:</span></b>
                Re: [RUGBYLIST] I: R: Re: I: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re:
                R: Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R: I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI<br clear="none">
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                <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4098"> Scsuate la
                  mia ignoranza, chi fa parte della Accademia francese
                  del Nord ???<br clear="none">
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                  <div class="yiv3320625800moz-cite-prefix" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4099">Il 19/02/2015
                    16:24, Salvatore Messina ha scritto:<br clear="none">
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                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3054">Salvatore
                            Messina</div>
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                              <font id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4103" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Da:</span></b>
                                Luca Oliva <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4102" ymailto="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com">&lt;lucaoliver63@gmail.com&gt;</a><br clear="none">
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">A:</span></b>
                                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-abbreviated" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424426383746_4104" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
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                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Inviato:</span></b>
                                Giovedì 19 Febbraio 2015 13:07<br clear="none">
                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Oggetto:</span></b>
                                Re: [RUGBYLIST] R: Re: I: R: Re: R: Re:
                                R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R:
                                I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI<br clear="none">
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                                <div> stranamente non c'è ancora nessun
                                  comunicato sul sito FIR.<br clear="none">
                                  comunque il primo incontro del tour
                                  della nazionale under 17 in francia
                                  dovrebbe essere finito in questo modo:<br clear="none">
                                  nazionale italiana under 17-accademie
                                  francesi del nord 10-48<br clear="none">
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                                  ciao.<br clear="none">
                                  luca <br clear="none">
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                                    <div class="yiv3320625800moz-cite-prefix">Il

                                      16/02/2015 17:47, ilfalco7 ha
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                                <div class="yiv3320625800yqt9024046893" id="yiv3320625800yqtfd50245">
                                  <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3234">
                                    <div>I risultati di verifica si
                                      potrebbero gia vedere con la 18 e
                                      la 17. Aspettiamo e avremo dei
                                      riscontri.</div>
                                    <div>Spero positivi</div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato

                                        da Samsung Mobile.</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <br clear="none">
                                    <br clear="none">
                                    <div>-------- Messaggio originale
                                      --------</div>
                                    <div>Da: Luca Oliva </div>
                                    <div>Data:16/02/2015 17:23
                                      (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                    <div>A: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Oggetto: Re: [RUGBYLIST] I: R:
                                      Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R:
                                      R: Re: R: I: R: I: R: I: I: I:
                                      SECONDO VOI </div>
                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    Porca miseria, mi trovo
                                    perfettamente d'accordo con te ... <span class="yiv3320625800moz-smiley-s1"><span>
                                        :-) </span></span><br clear="none">
                                    Quali sono le tappe intermedie di
                                    questo percorso ?<br clear="none">
                                    A giudicare dai "risultati" (quelli
                                    del campo), nessuna, perchè i
                                    risultati sono gli stessi da almeno
                                    10 anni a questa parte (scusate non
                                    vado più indietro, così a memoria)
                                    ... e cioè più o meno da quando è
                                    stata istituita l'Accademia
                                    Nazionale di Tirrenia ...<br clear="none">
                                    Però magari ci sono "altri"
                                    obbiettivi da verificare ...<br clear="none">
                                    <br clear="none">
                                    Ciao.<br clear="none">
                                    Luca <br clear="none">
                                    <br clear="none">
                                    <div class="yiv3320625800moz-cite-prefix" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3236">Il 16/02/2015 17:17,
                                      Salvatore Messina ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3247" type="cite">
                                      <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3246" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9923">Dispiace leggere certe
                                            cose da tecnici e tecnici
                                            che lavorano a buon
                                            livello.... D'altronde se da
                                            noi ci sono dei problemi di
                                            sviluppo un motivo ci
                                            sarà...</span></div>
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878"><span><br clear="none">
                                          </span></div>
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878"><span id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10224">Dire che i risultati
                                            si vedranno alla fine del
                                            ciclo è un po' come
                                            rispondere alla domanda
                                            "Quando Marco Polo arriverà
                                            in CIna?" con "Quando sarà
                                            arrivato!". E se invece
                                            arriva in Guatemala? Beh
                                            allora avrà sbagliato
                                            strada....</span></div>
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878"><span><br clear="none">
                                          </span></div>
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878">Lavorare


                                          per obiettivi significa
                                          innanzitutto avere degli
                                          obiettivi raggiungibili ma
                                          anche verificabili e questo
                                          significa che ci sono delle
                                          tappe da rispettare e delle
                                          valutazioni da fare durante il
                                          percorso e se queste tappe non
                                          sono state raggiunte si DEVE
                                          cambiare percorso se non
                                          addirittura l'obiettivo.</div>
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878"><br clear="none">
                                        </div>
                                        <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878">Che


                                          verifiche sono state fatte sul
                                          lavoro di formazione
                                          giovanile? Io non sono un
                                          addetto ai lavori ma se guardo
                                          ai risultati le tappe non sono
                                          state raggiunte e si doveva
                                          già cambiare percorso.</div>
                                        <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9875">&nbsp;</div>
                                        <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10847">
                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10846">Salvatore

                                            Messina</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <br clear="none">
                                        <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10850" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">
                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10849" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
                                            <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10848">
                                              ----- Messaggio inoltrato
                                              -----<br clear="none">
                                              <font id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10851" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Da:</span></b> Luca Oliva <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com">&lt;lucaoliver63@gmail.com&gt;</a><br clear="none">
                                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">A:</span></b>
                                                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">"rugbylist@rugbylist.it"</a>
                                                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv3320625800moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">&lt;rugbylist@rugbylist.it&gt;</a>
                                                <br clear="none">
                                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Inviato:</span></b>
                                                Sabato 14 Febbraio 2015
                                                12:53<br clear="none">
                                                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Oggetto:</span></b>
                                                Re: [RUGBYLIST] R: Re:
                                                R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R:
                                                Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R:
                                                I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO
                                                VOI<br clear="none">
                                              </font> </div>
                                            <div class="yiv3320625800y_msg_container" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10854"><br clear="none">
                                              <div id="yiv3320625800">
                                                <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10853"><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Nessuna ironia nè senso di
                                                    catastrofe ...</span>
                                                  <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10852" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Non mi interessa il confronto con
                                                    i pari età inglesi
                                                    dell'under 20, mi
                                                    sono dispiaciuti di
                                                    più i 47 punti presi
                                                    con l'Irlanda ...</div>
                                                  <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Continuo


                                                    però a predicare
                                                    umiltà, e una
                                                    revisione del
                                                    sistema delle
                                                    Accademie.</div>
                                                  <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Non

                                                    può che farci bene&nbsp;</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div class="yiv3320625800gmail_extra" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10856"><br clear="none">
                                                  <div class="yiv3320625800gmail_quote" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10855">Il giorno 14 febbraio
                                                    2015 12:52, Luca
                                                    Oliva <span dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10870">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10869" ymailto="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com">lucaoliver63@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                    ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                    <blockquote class="yiv3320625800gmail_quote" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10858" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                      <div dir="ltr" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10857">Nessuna


                                                        ironia nè senso
                                                        di catastrofe
                                                        ...
                                                        <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10859">Non


                                                          mi interessa
                                                          il confronto
                                                          con i pari età
                                                          inglesi
                                                          dell'under 20,
                                                          mi sono
                                                          dispiaciuti di
                                                          più i 47 punti
                                                          presi con
                                                          l'Irlanda ...</div>
                                                        <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10860">Continuo



                                                          però a
                                                          predicare
                                                          umiltà, e una
                                                          revisione del
                                                          sistema delle
                                                          Accademie.</div>
                                                        <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10861">Non


                                                          può che farci
                                                          bene&nbsp;</div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div class="yiv3320625800gmail_extra" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10862"><br clear="none">
                                                        <div class="yiv3320625800gmail_quote" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10863">Il giorno 14 febbraio
                                                          2015 08:54,
                                                          ilfalco7 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:ilfalco7@libero.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:ilfalco7@libero.it">ilfalco7@libero.it</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                          <blockquote class="yiv3320625800gmail_quote" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3245" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3244">
                                                          <div class="yiv3320625800h5" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3243">
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3242">
                                                          <div>Èh si è
                                                          davvero dura.
                                                          Campioni del
                                                          mondo in
                                                          carica.....ma
                                                          questa
                                                          nazionale è la
                                                          meno forte
                                                          degli ulrimi
                                                          anni ed è
                                                          anche l anno
                                                          del mondiale
                                                          in casa nostra</div>
                                                          <span> </span>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato



                                                          da Samsung
                                                          Mobile.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>--------
                                                          Messaggio
                                                          originale
                                                          --------</div>
                                                          <div>Da: Luca
                                                          Oliva </div>
                                                          <div>Data:13/02/2015

                                                          23:37
                                                          (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                          <div>A: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Oggetto:
                                                          Re:
                                                          [RUGBYLIST] R:
                                                          Re: R: Re: R:
                                                          Re: R: Re: R:
                                                          R: Re: R: I:
                                                          R: I: R: I: I:
                                                          I: SECONDO VOI
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3241">
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3240">
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          Peccato, però
                                                          questa è
                                                          proprio la
                                                          notizia che
                                                          non avrei mai
                                                          voluto leggere
                                                          stasera ...<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.onrugby.it/2015/02/13/sei-nazioni-u20-plymouth-e-marea-inglese-italia-ko-61-0/">http://www.onrugby.it/2015/02/13/sei-nazioni-u20-plymouth-e-marea-inglese-italia-ko-61-0/</a><br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>Il
                                                          13/02/2015
                                                          17:57, Luca
                                                          Oliva ha
                                                          scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3239" type="cite">
                                                          Chapeau ...
                                                          !!!<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>Il
                                                          13/02/2015
                                                          17:53,
                                                          ilfalco7 ha
                                                          scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3238" type="cite">
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3237">In

                                                          questo paese l
                                                          integrità o la
                                                          verita dpende
                                                          dall etica di
                                                          una persona.
                                                          Purtroppo non
                                                          dal lavoro che
                                                          fa</div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato



                                                          da Samsung
                                                          Mobile.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>--------
                                                          Messaggio
                                                          originale
                                                          --------</div>
                                                          <div>Da: Luca
                                                          Oliva </div>
                                                          <div>Data:13/02/2015

                                                          17:47
                                                          (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                          <div>A: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Oggetto:
                                                          Re:
                                                          [RUGBYLIST] R:
                                                          Re: R: Re: R:
                                                          Re: R: R: Re:
                                                          R: I: R: I: R:
                                                          I: I: I:
                                                          SECONDO VOI </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          Dai era una
                                                          battuta ...
                                                          Credo che se
                                                          un sistema è
                                                          buono, i
                                                          risultati si
                                                          vedono subito,
                                                          poi ci vuole
                                                          un ciclo o due
                                                          per
                                                          completarli e
                                                          portarli a
                                                          termine, come
                                                          mi stai
                                                          giustamente
                                                          dicendo tu ...<br clear="none">
                                                          Ci mancherebbe
                                                          altro mettere
                                                          in dubbio
                                                          l'onestà di un
                                                          dipendente
                                                          della Polizia
                                                          di Stato !!!
                                                          :) <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Comunque se il
                                                          discorso
                                                          impostato
                                                          sulle
                                                          Accademie è
                                                          corretto,
                                                          qualche
                                                          risultato si
                                                          dovrebbe
                                                          vedere da
                                                          subito ...
                                                          Stiamo a
                                                          vedere ...<br clear="none">
                                                          Io resto
                                                          favorevole a
                                                          un sistema
                                                          diverso ma,
                                                          giustamente,
                                                          non sono io in
                                                          sella ...<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Ciao !!!! <br clear="none">
                                                          Luca <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>Il
                                                          13/02/2015
                                                          17:39,
                                                          ilfalco7 ha
                                                          scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3256" type="cite">
                                                          <div>No?
                                                          Epperchemai!!&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>La prendo
                                                          a ridere ma
                                                          non è carino
                                                          dire che non
                                                          sono stato
                                                          onesto.</div>
                                                          <div>Allora da
                                                          fuori dimmi tu
                                                          quando</div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato



                                                          da Samsung
                                                          Mobile.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>--------
                                                          Messaggio
                                                          originale
                                                          --------</div>
                                                          <div>Da: Luca
                                                          Oliva </div>
                                                          <div>Data:13/02/2015

                                                          17:32
                                                          (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                          <div>A: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
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                                                          <div>Oggetto:
                                                          Re:
                                                          [RUGBYLIST] R:
                                                          Re: R: Re: R:
                                                          R: Re: R: I:
                                                          R: I: R: I: I:
                                                          I: SECONDO VOI
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                                                          No :) <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>Il
                                                          13/02/2015
                                                          17:31,
                                                          ilfalco7 ha
                                                          scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3255" type="cite">
                                                          <div>Dopo tre
                                                          anni .</div>
                                                          <div>Dopo ma
                                                          un conto è
                                                          risalare dalla
                                                          b in a.</div>
                                                          <div>Un conto
                                                          vincere a
                                                          livello
                                                          internazionale.&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>Per il
                                                          mio lavoro si
                                                          trattava di
                                                          azzerare tutto
                                                          proporre una
                                                          nuova
                                                          strategia
                                                          rifondare un
                                                          club, cercare
                                                          gli uomini e i
                                                          giocatori
                                                          giusti.</div>
                                                          <div>Difficile
                                                          ma piu rapido.</div>
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3254">Con

                                                          il settore
                                                          giovanile che
                                                          siamo partiti
                                                          da zero i
                                                          risultati sono
                                                          cominciati ad
                                                          arrivare l
                                                          anno scorso
                                                          dopo 7 anni e
                                                          saranno
                                                          completi,
                                                          spero tra due
                                                          quindo 9 o 10.</div>
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3257">Questi

                                                          sono i tempi
                                                          per arrivare
                                                          al vertice.</div>
                                                          <div>Ti sono
                                                          sembrato
                                                          abbastanza
                                                          onesto?!!!</div>
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3258"><br clear="none">
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                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3259" style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato da Samsung Mobile.</div>
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                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3261">--------

                                                          Messaggio
                                                          originale
                                                          --------</div>
                                                          <div>Da: Luca
                                                          Oliva </div>
                                                          <div>Data:13/02/2015


                                                          17:18
                                                          (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3263">A:

                                                          <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3262" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
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                                                          <div id="yiv3320625800yui_3_16_0_1_1424358993076_3268">Oggetto:

                                                          Re:
                                                          [RUGBYLIST] R:
                                                          Re: R: R: Re:
                                                          R: I: R: I: R:
                                                          I: I: I:
                                                          SECONDO VOI </div>
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                                                          Anni di lavoro
                                                          ...
                                                          L'importante è
                                                          spostare
                                                          sempre avanti
                                                          l'asticella
                                                          ... Così
                                                          nessuno può
                                                          mai fare una
                                                          verifica seria
                                                          dei risultati
                                                          ... <br clear="none">
                                                          Tu alle FF.OO.
                                                          dopo quanti
                                                          anni ha visto
                                                          i risultati
                                                          del tuo lavoro
                                                          ?<br clear="none">
                                                          Risposta
                                                          onesta ..<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Ciao.<br clear="none">
                                                          Luca <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>Il
                                                          13/02/2015
                                                          17:03,
                                                          ilfalco7 ha
                                                          scritto:<br clear="none">
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                                                          <div>Una
                                                          rondine non fa
                                                          primavera.
                                                          Speriamo nei
                                                          risultati x i
                                                          ragazzi che
                                                          davvero si
                                                          impegnano.</div>
                                                          <div>Ma x una
                                                          verifica del
                                                          lavoro servono
                                                          anni di
                                                          risultati. A
                                                          mio parere
                                                          pero le
                                                          nazionali
                                                          junior fanno
                                                          troppo poca
                                                          attivita
                                                          internazionale.&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato



                                                          da Samsung
                                                          Mobile.</div>
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                                                          <div>--------
                                                          Messaggio
                                                          originale
                                                          --------</div>
                                                          <div>Da: Luca
                                                          Oliva </div>
                                                          <div>Data:13/02/2015


                                                          12:37
                                                          (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                          <div>A: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it" target="_blank" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Oggetto:
                                                          Re:
                                                          [RUGBYLIST] R:
                                                          R: Re: R: I:
                                                          R: I: R: I: I:
                                                          I: SECONDO VOI
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                                                          Dei 56
                                                          convocati per
                                                          le nazionali
                                                          under 17 e 18
                                                          questa è la
                                                          distribuzione
                                                          "regionale":<br clear="none">
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                                                          <table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:144pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="192"><colgroup span="1"><col span="1" style="width:107pt;" width="142"><col span="1" style="width:37pt;" width="50"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:15.0pt;" height="20"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="height:15.0pt;width:107pt;" height="20" width="142">regione</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="width:37pt;" width="50">tot</td></tr><tr style="height:15.0pt;" height="20"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="height:15.0pt;" height="20">Veneto</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1">20</td></tr><tr style="height:15.0pt;" height="20"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="height:15.0pt;" height="20">Lombardia</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1">10</td></tr><tr style="height:15.0pt;" height="20"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="height:15.0pt;" height="20">Lazio</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1">7</td></tr><tr style="height:15.0pt;" height="20"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="height:15.0pt;" height="20">Abruzzo</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1">4</td></tr><tr style="height:15.0pt;" height="20"><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="height:15.0pt;" height="20">Campania</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1">3</td></tr></tbody></table>
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