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    stranamente non c'è ancora nessun comunicato sul sito FIR.<br>
    comunque il primo incontro del tour della nazionale under 17 in
    francia dovrebbe essere finito in questo modo:<br>
    nazionale italiana under 17-accademie francesi del nord 10-48<br>
    <br>
    ciao.<br>
    luca <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 16/02/2015 17:47, ilfalco7 ha
      scritto:<br>
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      <div>I risultati di verifica si potrebbero gia vedere con la 18 e
        la 17. Aspettiamo e avremo dei riscontri.</div>
      <div>Spero positivi</div>
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        <div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Inviato da Samsung
          Mobile.</div>
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      <br>
      <div>-------- Messaggio originale --------</div>
      <div>Da: Luca Oliva <lucaoliver63@gmail.com> </lucaoliver63@gmail.com></div>
      <div>Data:16/02/2015 17:23 (GMT+01:00) </div>
      <div>A: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a> </div>
      <div>Oggetto: Re: [RUGBYLIST] I: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R:
        Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R: I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI </div>
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      Porca miseria, mi trovo perfettamente d'accordo con te ... <span
        class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span><br>
      Quali sono le tappe intermedie di questo percorso ?<br>
      A giudicare dai "risultati" (quelli del campo), nessuna, perchè i
      risultati sono gli stessi da almeno 10 anni a questa parte
      (scusate non vado più indietro, così a memoria) ... e cioè più o
      meno da quando è stata istituita l'Accademia Nazionale di Tirrenia
      ...<br>
      Però magari ci sono "altri" obbiettivi da verificare ...<br>
      <br>
      Ciao.<br>
      Luca <br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 16/02/2015 17:17, Salvatore
        Messina ha scritto:<br>
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cite="mid:1883588422.7947409.1424103439468.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com"
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          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878" dir="ltr"><span
              id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9923">Dispiace leggere
              certe cose da tecnici e tecnici che lavorano a buon
              livello.... D'altronde se da noi ci sono dei problemi di
              sviluppo un motivo ci sarà...</span></div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878" dir="ltr"><span><br>
            </span></div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878" dir="ltr"><span
              id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10224">Dire che i risultati
              si vedranno alla fine del ciclo è un po' come rispondere
              alla domanda "Quando Marco Polo arriverà in CIna?" con
              "Quando sarà arrivato!". E se invece arriva in Guatemala?
              Beh allora avrà sbagliato strada....</span></div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878" dir="ltr"><span><br>
            </span></div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878" dir="ltr">Lavorare
            per obiettivi significa innanzitutto avere degli obiettivi
            raggiungibili ma anche verificabili e questo significa che
            ci sono delle tappe da rispettare e delle valutazioni da
            fare durante il percorso e se queste tappe non sono state
            raggiunte si DEVE cambiare percorso se non addirittura
            l'obiettivo.</div>
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          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9878" dir="ltr">Che
            verifiche sono state fatte sul lavoro di formazione
            giovanile? Io non sono un addetto ai lavori ma se guardo ai
            risultati le tappe non sono state raggiunte e si doveva già
            cambiare percorso.</div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_9875"> </div>
          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10847">
            <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10846">Salvatore Messina</div>
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                ----- Messaggio inoltrato -----<br>
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                  size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Da:</span></b>
                  Luca Oliva <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com">&lt;lucaoliver63@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">A:</span></b> <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">"rugbylist@rugbylist.it"</a>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">&lt;rugbylist@rugbylist.it&gt;</a>
                  <br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Inviato:</span></b>
                  Sabato 14 Febbraio 2015 12:53<br>
                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Oggetto:</span></b>
                  Re: [RUGBYLIST] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R:
                  R: Re: R: I: R: I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10853"><span
                      style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Nessuna
                      ironia nè senso di catastrofe ...</span>
                    <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;"
                      id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10852">Non mi
                      interessa il confronto con i pari età inglesi
                      dell'under 20, mi sono dispiaciuti di più i 47
                      punti presi con l'Irlanda ...</div>
                    <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Continuo
                      però a predicare umiltà, e una revisione del
                      sistema delle Accademie.</div>
                    <div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">Non può
                      che farci bene </div>
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                  <div class="yiv3678568517gmail_extra"
                    id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10856"><br>
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                      id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10855">Il giorno 14
                      febbraio 2015 12:52, Luca Oliva <span dir="ltr"
                        id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10870">&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                          ymailto="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank"
                          href="mailto:lucaoliver63@gmail.com"
                          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10869">lucaoliver63@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                      ha scritto:<br>
                      <blockquote class="yiv3678568517gmail_quote"
                        style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                        solid;padding-left:1ex;"
                        id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10858">
                        <div dir="ltr"
                          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10857">Nessuna
                          ironia nè senso di catastrofe ...
                          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10859">Non
                            mi interessa il confronto con i pari età
                            inglesi dell'under 20, mi sono dispiaciuti
                            di più i 47 punti presi con l'Irlanda ...</div>
                          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10860">Continuo

                            però a predicare umiltà, e una revisione del
                            sistema delle Accademie.</div>
                          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10861">Non
                            può che farci bene </div>
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                        <div class="yiv3678568517gmail_extra"
                          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10862"><br>
                          <div class="yiv3678568517gmail_quote"
                            id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424102205081_10863">Il
                            giorno 14 febbraio 2015 08:54, ilfalco7 <span
                              dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                rel="nofollow"
                                ymailto="mailto:ilfalco7@libero.it"
                                target="_blank"
                                href="mailto:ilfalco7@libero.it">ilfalco7@libero.it</a>&gt;</span>
                            ha scritto:<br>
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                              style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                              #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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                                <div class="yiv3678568517h5">
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                                    <div>Èh si è davvero dura. Campioni
                                      del mondo in carica.....ma questa
                                      nazionale è la meno forte degli
                                      ulrimi anni ed è anche l anno del
                                      mondiale in casa nostra</div>
                                    <span>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato

                                          da Samsung Mobile.</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <div>-------- Messaggio originale
                                        --------</div>
                                      <div>Da: Luca Oliva </div>
                                    </span>
                                    <div>Data:13/02/2015 23:37
                                      (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                    <div>A: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        rel="nofollow"
                                        ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Oggetto: Re: [RUGBYLIST] R: Re:
                                      R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: R: Re: R:
                                      I: R: I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI </div>
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                                        Peccato, però questa è proprio
                                        la notizia che non avrei mai
                                        voluto leggere stasera ...<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://www.onrugby.it/2015/02/13/sei-nazioni-u20-plymouth-e-marea-inglese-italia-ko-61-0/">http://www.onrugby.it/2015/02/13/sei-nazioni-u20-plymouth-e-marea-inglese-italia-ko-61-0/</a><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div>Il 13/02/2015 17:57, Luca
                                          Oliva ha scritto:<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <blockquote type="cite"> Chapeau
                                          ... !!!<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div>Il 13/02/2015 17:53,
                                            ilfalco7 ha scritto:<br>
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                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div>In questo paese l
                                              integrità o la verita
                                              dpende dall etica di una
                                              persona. Purtroppo non dal
                                              lavoro che fa</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div
                                                style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato

                                                da Samsung Mobile.</div>
                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div>-------- Messaggio
                                              originale --------</div>
                                            <div>Da: Luca Oliva </div>
                                            <div>Data:13/02/2015 17:47
                                              (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                            <div>A: <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                rel="nofollow"
                                                ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Oggetto: Re:
                                              [RUGBYLIST] R: Re: R: Re:
                                              R: Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R:
                                              I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO VOI
                                            </div>
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                                            </div>
                                            Dai era una battuta ...
                                            Credo che se un sistema è
                                            buono, i risultati si vedono
                                            subito, poi ci vuole un
                                            ciclo o due per completarli
                                            e portarli a termine, come
                                            mi stai giustamente dicendo
                                            tu ...<br>
                                            Ci mancherebbe altro mettere
                                            in dubbio l'onestà di un
                                            dipendente della Polizia di
                                            Stato !!! :) <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Comunque se il discorso
                                            impostato sulle Accademie è
                                            corretto, qualche risultato
                                            si dovrebbe vedere da subito
                                            ... Stiamo a vedere ...<br>
                                            Io resto favorevole a un
                                            sistema diverso ma,
                                            giustamente, non sono io in
                                            sella ...<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Ciao !!!! <br>
                                            Luca <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div>Il 13/02/2015 17:39,
                                              ilfalco7 ha scritto:<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div>No? Epperchemai!! </div>
                                              <div>La prendo a ridere ma
                                                non è carino dire che
                                                non sono stato onesto.</div>
                                              <div>Allora da fuori dimmi
                                                tu quando</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato

                                                  da Samsung Mobile.</div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>-------- Messaggio
                                                originale --------</div>
                                              <div>Da: Luca Oliva </div>
                                              <div>Data:13/02/2015 17:32
                                                (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                              <div>A: <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                  rel="nofollow"
                                                  ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Oggetto: Re:
                                                [RUGBYLIST] R: Re: R:
                                                Re: R: R: Re: R: I: R:
                                                I: R: I: I: I: SECONDO
                                                VOI </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              No :) <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div>Il 13/02/2015 17:31,
                                                ilfalco7 ha scritto:<br>
                                              </div>
                                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                                <div>Dopo tre anni .</div>
                                                <div>Dopo ma un conto è
                                                  risalare dalla b in a.</div>
                                                <div>Un conto vincere a
                                                  livello
                                                  internazionale. </div>
                                                <div>Per il mio lavoro
                                                  si trattava di
                                                  azzerare tutto
                                                  proporre una nuova
                                                  strategia rifondare un
                                                  club, cercare gli
                                                  uomini e i giocatori
                                                  giusti.</div>
                                                <div>Difficile ma piu
                                                  rapido.</div>
                                                <div>Con il settore
                                                  giovanile che siamo
                                                  partiti da zero i
                                                  risultati sono
                                                  cominciati ad arrivare
                                                  l anno scorso dopo 7
                                                  anni e saranno
                                                  completi, spero tra
                                                  due quindo 9 o 10.</div>
                                                <div>Questi sono i tempi
                                                  per arrivare al
                                                  vertice.</div>
                                                <div>Ti sono sembrato
                                                  abbastanza onesto?!!!</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato

                                                    da Samsung Mobile.</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div>-------- Messaggio
                                                  originale --------</div>
                                                <div>Da: Luca Oliva </div>
                                                <div>Data:13/02/2015
                                                  17:18 (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                <div>A: <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                    rel="nofollow"
                                                    ymailto="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    href="mailto:rugbylist@rugbylist.it">rugbylist@rugbylist.it</a>
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                                                <div>Oggetto: Re:
                                                  [RUGBYLIST] R: Re: R:
                                                  R: Re: R: I: R: I: R:
                                                  I: I: I: SECONDO VOI </div>
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                                                Anni di lavoro ...
                                                L'importante è spostare
                                                sempre avanti
                                                l'asticella ... Così
                                                nessuno può mai fare una
                                                verifica seria dei
                                                risultati ... <br>
                                                Tu alle FF.OO. dopo
                                                quanti anni ha visto i
                                                risultati del tuo lavoro
                                                ?<br>
                                                Risposta onesta ..<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Ciao.<br>
                                                Luca <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div>Il 13/02/2015
                                                  17:03, ilfalco7 ha
                                                  scritto:<br>
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                                                  <div>Una rondine non
                                                    fa primavera.
                                                    Speriamo nei
                                                    risultati x i
                                                    ragazzi che davvero
                                                    si impegnano.</div>
                                                  <div>Ma x una verifica
                                                    del lavoro servono
                                                    anni di risultati. A
                                                    mio parere pero le
                                                    nazionali junior
                                                    fanno troppo poca
                                                    attivita
                                                    internazionale. </div>
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                                                      style="font-size:9px;color:#575757;">Inviato

                                                      da Samsung Mobile.</div>
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                                                    Messaggio originale
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                                                  <div>Da: Luca Oliva </div>
                                                  <div>Data:13/02/2015
                                                    12:37 (GMT+01:00) </div>
                                                  <div>A: <a
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                                                  <div>Oggetto: Re:
                                                    [RUGBYLIST] R: R:
                                                    Re: R: I: R: I: R:
                                                    I: I: I: SECONDO VOI
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                                                  Dei 56 convocati per
                                                  le nazionali under 17
                                                  e 18 questa è la
                                                  distribuzione
                                                  "regionale":<br>
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                                                    style="border-collapse:collapse;width:144pt;"
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                                                    cellpadding="0"
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                                                    width="192">
                                                    <colgroup><col
                                                        style="width:107pt;"
                                                        width="142"> <col
style="width:37pt;" width="50"> </colgroup><tbody>
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                                                        style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                        height="20">
                                                        <td
                                                          style="height:15.0pt;width:107pt;"
                                                          height="20"
                                                          width="142">regione</td>
                                                        <td
                                                          style="width:37pt;"
                                                          width="50">tot</td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                      <tr
                                                        style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                        height="20">
                                                        <td
                                                          style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                          height="20">Veneto</td>
                                                        <td>20</td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                      <tr
                                                        style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                        height="20">
                                                        <td
                                                          style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                          height="20">Lombardia</td>
                                                        <td>10</td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                      <tr
                                                        style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                        height="20">
                                                        <td
                                                          style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                          height="20">Lazio</td>
                                                        <td>7</td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                      <tr
                                                        style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                        height="20">
                                                        <td
                                                          style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                          height="20">Abruzzo</td>
                                                        <td>4</td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                      <tr
                                                        style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                        height="20">
                                                        <td
                                                          style="height:15.0pt;"
                                                          height="20">Campania</td>
                                                        <td>3</td>
                                                      </tr>
                                                    </tbody>
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